Posts by William Penwell

Here is something I posted 8 years ago on this site. If someone else has already posted this, my appologies for the duplication. Note how even though Fred Franz does not come out and say 1975 as the end of the system he was smart enough and uses a lawyer explaination to imply 1975.

*** w66 10/15 631 Rejoicing over "God's Sons of Liberty" Spiritual Feast ***
THE YEAR 1975
At the Baltimore assembly Brother Franz in his closing remarks made some interesting comments regarding the year 1975. He began casually by saying, “Just before I got on the platform a young man came to me and said, ‘Say, what does this 1975 mean? Does it mean this, that or any other thing?’” In part, Brother Franz went on to say: ‘You have noticed the chart [on pages 31-35 in the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God]. It shows that 6,000 years of human experience will end in 1975, about nine years from now. What does that mean? Does it mean that God’s rest day began 4026 B.C.E.? It could have. The Life Everlasting book does not say it did not. The book merely presents the chronology. You can accept it or reject it. If that is the case, what does that mean to us? [He went into some length showing the feasibility of the 4026 B.C.E. date as being the beginning of God’s rest day.]
‘What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?’ asked Brother Franz. ‘Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that.
‘When we were approaching the end of the Gentile Times in 1914, there was no sign that the Gentile Times were going to end. Conditions on earth gave us no hint of what was to come, even as late as June of that year. Then suddenly there was a murder. World War I broke out. You know the rest. Famines, earthquakes and pestilences followed, as Jesus foretold would happen.
‘But what do we have today as we approach 1975? Conditions have not been peaceful. We’ve been having world wars, famines, earthquakes, pestilences and we have these conditions still as we approach 1975. Do these things mean something? These things mean that we’re in the “time of the end.” And the end has to come sometime. Jesus said: “As these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.” (Luke 21:28) So we know that as we come to 1975 our deliverance is that much nearer.’

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Need Your Opinion

by bloominglotus in

jw
friends

hi u guys,.

lately i've been doing a lot of reflection about my life.

sometimes i would have overwhelming emotions come up ranging from anger, bitterness, sadness to relief.

William Penwell

I will tell you what I told my nephew, if you want your mother to respect your wishes then you have to respect her wishes. You cannot expect her to stop doing what she wants to do i.e. going out in service, so if you don't want your children to go out sevice than you will have to find another babysitter. I think that she was good about telling you that if you leave your children with me, they will have to go out in the service, unless they are old enough to be left alone for a few hours Saturday morning.

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My mom is pleading me to attend the JC

by bottleofwater in

what should i do?.

William Penwell

You bring your mom and the JC will through a real guilt trip on you. "Why you wouldn't want to disappoint your mom, would you?" I know my one son was brought in front of the JC years ago. He wasn't baptised so there was not much they could do to him so he talked back to them and my ex would tell our son to not be so disrespectful. He said he told his mother. "well they don't respect me so why should I respect them?"

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GB - a decoy?

by bottleofwater in

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i just thought this... how do we know that the gb isn't a decoy for people with the real power in the organization?.

William Penwell

I believe like any large cooperation, the power and decision making is probably held by a select few of the GB. The rest of them are only figure head yes men with no real power. If they dare speak out and express their conscience, they would find themselves like Ray Franz. I know just talking to some of my relatives the congregations are run somewhat the same way but even though they realize it is a bunch of BS, they still stick in there.

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Are you afraid of the Ouija board still?

by cyberjesus in

do you think it has superpowers?

who controlls it?

satan?

William Penwell

I have a scientific logical mind and these silly supersitions do not bother me.

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Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?

by William Penwell in

well i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.

to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.

well a few years later guess what?

William Penwell

Someone once told me 2 things he didn't trust another guy with and that is money and woman. So true about the money part.

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The old big orange "Paradise" book

by aquagirl in

anyone remember that?

i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.

William Penwell

She said they were being destroyed at Armageddon, because they were all bad people. I looked at the people and I started crying. They didn’t look like bad people to me. They all just looked scared. I couldn’t understand why all that was happening to those people in the pictures.

This is much the same for all of us. I recall not wanting to make worldly friendships or associate with worldy kids as they would be eventually distroyed at Armagddon. What a sick way to posion a young child's mind. It is something even to this day I have to fight against as it is always there in the back of my mind. For years I was not able to really make worldy friends and not have the social skills like normal adults.

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Children of 1975

by d in

what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

William Penwell

Growing up we were told that the JW's never set dates i.e. 1914, 1918 and 1925. That these were lies spread by the "Evil Slave Class" and apostates. Like all good JW's we bought the company line but what I went first hand with 1975, I know now that the Watchtower is capable of telling lies and covering up after the fact.